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		<title>Chinese are declared to be Black, so are Chinese are Fully Black?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[South African local Chinese are in the &#8220;black people&#8221; which is designed to benefit previous apartheid disadvantaged groups. Are they are fully black now? Do they really benefit all the advantages of BEE Act? According to the report this morning, Chinese are not fully black.
Johannesburg &#8211; The National African Federated Chamber of Commerce and Industry [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>South African</strong></a> local <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> are in the &#8220;<a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/black/">black</a> <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/people/">people</a>&#8221; which is designed to <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/benefit/">benefit</a> previous apartheid disadvantaged groups. Are they are <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/fully/">fully</a> <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/black/">black</a> now? Do they really <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/benefit/">benefit</a> all the advantages of <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> Act? According to the report this morning, <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> are not <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/fully/">fully</a> <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/black/">black</a>.<br />
Johannesburg &#8211; The National <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/african/">African</a> Federated Chamber of Commerce and Industry (<a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/nafcoc/">Nafcoc</a>) has slammed a high <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/court/">court</a> <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/ruling/">ruling</a> that <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/define/">defines</a> <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/south/">South</a> Africans as <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/black/">black</a> and gives them the full benefits of affirmative <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/action/">action</a> legislation, claiming the <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/black-economic-empowerment/">black economic empowerment</a> (<a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a>) &#8220;cake&#8221; was too small to share.<span id="more-65"></span></p>
<p>Buhle Mthethwa, the president of <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/nafcoc/">Nafcoc</a>, said on Friday that the spoils of <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> were the motivation for the case brought by the <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> community.</p>
<p><a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/she/">She</a> challenged the assertion by the <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> Association of SA (Casa), which brought the case before the Pretoria high <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/court/">court</a>, that the litigation was about lack of recognition and clearing up of misconceptions of the historical injustices the community had faced, and not about <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/economy/">economic</a> activism.</p>
<p>The landmark <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/ruling/">ruling</a> gives the full benefits of employment equity and broad-based <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> legislation to <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/people/">people</a> who were citizens before 1994.</p>
<p>&#8220;The defenders of the <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/ruling/">ruling</a>, including members of the <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>South African</strong></a> community, that were interviewed in the media have said this is not about <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> deals,&#8221; Mthethwa said. &#8220;This cannot possibly be true when you look at the number of <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a>-owned <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/enterprise/">enterprises</a> that we have in the country already. They show a <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/people/">people</a> who, given half a chance, would want to strengthen their foothold in the <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>South African</strong></a> <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/economy/">economy</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/she/">She</a> said broad-based <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> had not yet <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/fully/">fully</a> benefited Africans whose lineage could be traced back 30 generations.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have always argued that the <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> cake is too small and really only benefits a few, that we need an environment that is capable of baking a bigger cake that will be cut into many more slices so that more <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/people/">people</a> can <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/benefit/">benefit</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Broad-based empowerment is a concept that has not really filtered down to your man on the street, to that <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/enterprise/">entrepreneur</a> in the township who would also one day like to see himself as an A-list business person,&#8221; said the <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/nafcoc/">Nafcoc</a> boss.</p>
<p><a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/she/">She</a> said <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/nafcoc/">Nafcoc</a> had fought for 44 years for an <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/economy/">economic</a> climate that was inclusive of <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/african/">African</a> small, medium and micro <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/enterprise/">enterprises</a>, and it was justifiably worried about what the <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/ruling/">ruling</a> would mean in practice.</p>
<p><a href="http://beepartner.com//"><img src="http://beepartner.com/files/2008/04/beepartner.gif" alt="BEEPartner SA Economy" align="right" border="0" height="90" width="190" /></a>Mthethwa denied <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/nafcoc/">Nafcoc</a>&#8217;s attitude could be construed as being xenophobic, saying the chamber was prepared to argue with anyone on the issue.</p>
<p>&#8220;Where does it end? What about the Italians and what about the Portuguese? Are we going to broaden the definition to include them,&#8221; <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/she/">she</a> asked.</p>
<p>Patrick Chong, the chairman of Casa, the non-political organisation which took the <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/government/">government</a> to <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/court/">court</a> over the classification, <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/fully/">fully</a> agreed with <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/nafcoc/">Nafcoc</a> that only a few had benefited from <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> and that these were not the ones that the <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/government/">government</a> had intended.</p>
<p>&#8220;However, the businesses that <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/people/">people</a> see are <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>South African</strong></a>, not <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a>. Their owners have nowhere to go but <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>South Africa</strong></a>. Some of them have been here for more than 150 years,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;We want to transform this country. We need to stand together and come up with strategies that will <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/benefit/">benefit</a> the working class of the country.&#8221;</p>
<p>The <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/government/">government</a> did not oppose the challenge to its <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> legislation, which had excluded the <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> as beneficiaries of affirmative <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/action/">action</a>.</p>
<p>It is estimated that there are roughly 10 000 <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> in <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>South Africa</strong></a> who could qualify.</p>
<p>Chong said the <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/court/">court</a> <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/action/">action</a> was not aimed at gaining wealth through <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> deals. &#8220;We took up this <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/action/">action</a> way before <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> was legislated in 2004.&#8221;</p>
<p>Under apartheid, <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> were classified as coloured. They could live in white residential areas but only at the behest of their white neighbours.</p>
<p>The confusion over the racial classification led companies to exclude <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> from their empowerment schemes.</p>
<p><a href="http://beepartner.com/category/sasol/">Sasol</a>&#8217;s multibillion-rand Inzalo <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> deal specifically excludes <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a>. Under the heading, &#8220;Who is not <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/black/">Black</a>&#8220;, it says: &#8220;<a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>South African</strong></a> citizens who were regarded as coloured before April 27 1994 but are of <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> origin.&#8221;</p>
<p>Vernon Whyte, a <a href="http://beepartner.com/tag/chinese/">Chinese</a> <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>South African</strong></a>, challenged Standard Bank, his employer, when he was excluded from a <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong>BEE</strong></a> share scheme in 2004.</p>
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		<title>Sasol Made 16 Discount Sale Of 20 Mining Share to Bee Women Empowerment Group Ixia Coal At a Price R19 Billion</title>
		<link>http://beepartner.com/2007/10/13/sasol-made-16-discount-sale-of-20-mining-share-to-bee-women-empowerment-group-ixia-coal-at-a-price-r19-billion/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sasol petrochemical group sold 20 percent of its Sasol Mining share to Ixia Coal in a deal worth R1.9 billion. Sasol petrochemical group total market value worth R212 billion. The total transaction cost is R9.3 billion which only accounts for 4 percentage of total value. It means Sasol makes 16% discount of its share price. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://beepartner.com/category/sasol/">Sasol</a> petrochemical group sold 20 percent of its <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/sasol/">Sasol</a> Mining share to Ixia Coal in a deal worth R1.9 billion. <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/sasol/">Sasol</a> petrochemical group total market value worth R212 billion. The total transaction cost is R9.3 billion which only accounts for 4 percentage of total value. It means <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/sasol/">Sasol</a> makes 16% discount of its share price. The question is does the <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/sasol/">sasol</a> loose its money, or does the Ixia Coal make a profit? In other way, whose money has been sacrificed during the deal? By <a href="http://beepartner.com//"><strong><font color="#35459c">BEE</font><font color="#14a049">Partner</font>.com</strong></a> editor opinion, If <a href="http://beepartner.com/category/sasol/">sasol</a> share price going to a downturn, their both loose.</p>
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